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I was just curious, how many people are married or dating a Vegan/Vegetarian/Carnivore?
And what's it like?
I've never really been with a meat-eater, but I don't think it would effect much.
Love is love, I think.

Definitely separate rooms.  Regardless of what may happen when she arrives.

Things to keep in mind.  Everyone has a different base level.  Sometimes focus and touching are purposeful flirting and sometimes it's just baseline.  It won't take too long after she arrives to determine her interest level.  And you can't tell even with sex, because for some people sex is more casual than for other people (duh) and it doesn't signify a thing.  It'd be nice if these things were easier to figure out.

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Definitely separate rooms.  Regardless of what may happen when she arrives.

Things to keep in mind.  Everyone has a different base level.  Sometimes focus and touching are purposeful flirting and sometimes it's just baseline.  It won't take too long after she arrives to determine her interest level.  And you can't tell even with sex, because for some people sex is more casual than for other people (duh) and it doesn't signify a thing.  It'd be nice if these things were easier to figure out.

i agree with this. flirting and touching doesn't automatically equal interest.

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Definitely separate rooms.  Regardless of what may happen when she arrives.

Things to keep in mind.  Everyone has a different base level.  Sometimes focus and touching are purposeful flirting and sometimes it's just baseline.  It won't take too long after she arrives to determine her interest level.  And you can't tell even with sex, because for some people sex is more casual than for other people (duh) and it doesn't signify a thing.  It'd be nice if these things were easier to figure out.

i agree with this. flirting and touching doesn't automatically equal interest.

She arrived and is set up in the other room. We get along great, joking, talking but there is no flirting. Or well I happen not to see any. She's really fun but I dont have any signals to go off of..

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I'm confused as to why some of the people in this thread would want their children vegan, but don't necessarily "care" whether or not their partner is vegan.
It just doesn't make sense to me. (not judging, just wondering why it's different).

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I'm confused as to why some of the people in this thread would want their children vegan, but don't necessarily "care" whether or not their partner is vegan.
It just doesn't make sense to me. (not judging, just wondering why it's different).

You can't decide your partner's food because they're an adult.  I love lots of people who aren't vegan, and I'm not going to NOT love someone because they're not vegan.  You can't really choose to not have feelings for someone!  We're talking about relationships, not a game show.  You can't just will someone to be vegan, or will yourself not to love someone.  It's just too complicated, especially when people's backgrounds/life paths just wouldn't tend to lead them to veganism.  It would be nice if my partner were vegan......just like it would probably be nice to my partner if I........liked football more.......but it's just not that important compared to everything else.  Or realistic.  It's not in my control, nor do I care.  I care about the things I can control.

There's a huge difference between raising vegan children and trying to convert someone to veganism.  We all think it would be nicer with more vegans in the world, but it's just not going to happen for 100% of people, and those people are still going to keep on living and loving.  There's no net gain/loss if you choose an omni lover, but there IS a net gain if you raise a vegan child.

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I'm confused as to why some of the people in this thread would want their children vegan, but don't necessarily "care" whether or not their partner is vegan.
It just doesn't make sense to me. (not judging, just wondering why it's different).

You can't decide your partner's food because they're an adult.  I love lots of people who aren't vegan, and I'm not going to NOT love someone because they're not vegan.  You can't really choose to not have feelings for someone!  We're talking about relationships, not a game show.  You can't just will someone to be vegan, or will yourself not to love someone.  It's just too complicated, especially when people's backgrounds/life paths just wouldn't tend to lead them to veganism.  It would be nice if my partner were vegan......just like it would probably be nice to my partner if I........liked football more.......but it's just not that important compared to everything else.  Or realistic.  It's not in my control, nor do I care.  I care about the things I can control.

There's a huge difference between raising vegan children and trying to convert someone to veganism.  We all think it would be nicer with more vegans in the world, but it's just not going to happen for 100% of people, and those people are still going to keep on living and loving.  There's no net gain/loss if you choose an omni lover, but there IS a net gain if you raise a vegan child.

That wasn't exactly what I meant, but alright :)

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Well, what did you mean?  I don't remember what specific post you are referring to, I just responded to the question as it was posed.  Like, why would you raise vegan kids if your partner wasn't vegan.  Are you saying, like, if you don't care if your partner is vegan, then don't stress that your kid isn't vegan?

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maybe it's because if you bring a kid into the world (choose to) and they end up not vegan it's doing more harm to anials than if you just didn't have kiddos?

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I can't really explain what I meant. It's my fault.

I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

Too many people to get married?

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

Too many people to get married?

lol, all those married people.......sharing land and houses and resources.......stop destroying the earth!

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

Too many people to get married?

No, too many people for me to add to the numbers.  :)

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

Too many people to get married?

No, too many people for me to add to the numbers.  :)

I feel/felt this way too, but sometimes it's hard to control those hormone levels that come later on in life (or so I hear). Still crossing my fingers I'll be able to settle for puppies!
(then again, one can always adopt. whether or not you can make an adopted kid vegan... idk)

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I'd never have kids or get married, so I do differ on that (for myself).

Ohhhh. Never say never on that one!

I really would be disappointed if I changed my mine, because I feel there are already too many people, and I'm selfish with the way I feel about it, also. (I'm not going to explain because it is selfish, but I don't care.)

Too many people to get married?

No, too many people for me to add to the numbers.  :)

I feel/felt this way too, but sometimes it's hard to control those hormone levels that come later on in life (or so I hear). Still crossing my fingers I'll be able to settle for puppies!
(then again, one can always adopt. whether or not you can make an adopted kid vegan... idk)

I'm seriously confused. I understand the not wanting to add more people to the earth, etc., but are we also talking about marriage? I don't get the numbers thing, sorry. Not..I don't get it, but I don't understand.

eta: maybe I'll make another thread, so we can discuss it.

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For me (and I think dessie too), the numbers thing is about kids. I don't oppose the idea of getting married.

Perhaps to dessie, getting married is for the purpose of having kids?

(if anything, getting married & not wanting kids is better for population control, since you're keeping another person out of the gene pool. only assuming that someone married to you is less likely to leave than if you're not married)

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Oh, I forgot that I thought of this earlier. Since we are all speculating about dessie...maybe she meant that if she were to get married, she would want to have kids, but she doesn't want to want to have kids? Probably not.

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Oh, I forgot that I thought of this earlier. Since we are all speculating about dessie...maybe she meant that if she were to get married, she would want to have kids, but she doesn't want to want to have kids? Probably not.

I'm not opposed to marriage, as I said in the other thread.
And I wish people would stop having kids for awhile and try adoption - but that isn't my choice for others and I think it's a normal thing.

I don't want kids for other reasons, like I said:
selfish ones.
I feel like people sleep, work, eat, take care of kids. repeat.
It seems like you have no time to love the person you're in love with, aside from the 3 hours you get at night.
I feel like most of a person's free time is dedicated to the kids and work.
I'd rather be selfish and keep the person I'm in love with all to myself.

I don't want anyone to get angry or defensive about this.. prove me wrong if you want.
But I know for me, this is how I feel about my future.

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I feel like people sleep, work, eat, take care of kids. repeat.
It seems like you have no time to love the person you're in love with, aside from the 3 hours you get at night.
I feel like most of a person's free time is dedicated to the kids and work.
I'd rather be selfish and keep the person I'm in love with all to myself.

I see. Well, I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but I know that I love my husband wholeheartedly 24 hours a day (a brain is still working with sleep, so I assume it's still loving). I don't stop loving him when I'm having to do other things. I assume that I will love my children quite differently than I love my husband. I will love when I'm able to dedicate time to kids! Not for everyone, I understand, but I don't think having kids and loving them takes away spousal love, for most people.

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