why do they say 'vegan' like it's a bad thing?
Posted by dankityjane on Mar 26, 2010 · Member since Mar 2010 · 4 posts
a lot of people i know will not eat anything i make in the fear that it's VEGAN!
or if someone sees some more accepting people trying it out,
they decide to try some of mine, with my eating utensil,
after inserting their nasty food into their flesh-eating mouths.
it pisses me off.
..discuss.
when I bring food to work, like cookies or muffins, I don't say anything....yes, most of my co-workers know I'm vegan, but if I don't remind them, they think the food is "normal" and eat it happily....
but when I make food for my friend's parties (like once a month or so) she always makes a point to tell people what food I made and that it's vegan (in a quiet voice), like "beware, who knows what's in that shit", yet she still tells me to make food....whatever...
yeah. i fucking cant stand that. but some people are just...dumb.
when I bring food to work, like cookies or muffins, I don't say anything....yes, most of my co-workers know I'm vegan, but if I don't remind them, they think the food is "normal" and eat it happily....
but when I make food for my friend's parties (like once a month or so) she always makes a point to tell people what food I made and that it's vegan (in a quiet voice), like "beware, who knows what's in that shit", yet she still tells me to make food....whatever...
Hahaha! Stop making food then... I would.
fear of the unknown
I always used to tell my dad that things were vegan so he wouldn't eat them.
I caught him eating my cupcakes once, though and I told him they had soymilk and soy yogurt in them. He looked disgusted for a second but kept eating and never questioned my baked goods ever again.
when I bring food to work, like cookies or muffins, I don't say anything....yes, most of my co-workers know I'm vegan, but if I don't remind them, they think the food is "normal" and eat it happily....
but when I make food for my friend's parties (like once a month or so) she always makes a point to tell people what food I made and that it's vegan (in a quiet voice), like "beware, who knows what's in that shit", yet she still tells me to make food....whatever...
Hahaha! Stop making food then... I would.
that was my first reaction after I caught her acting that way - but then there wouldn't be anything for Andy, Megan and I to eat...and I like to snack at parties....
Pretty much the opposite, but my dad would try my things and tell me they tasted bad because the Earth Balance had a bad aftertaste. But he and my mom bought themselves some SMart Balance, and I used that. HE told me that my cookies still tasted funny, and I told him that I used their butter. He shut up after that.
ignorant, afraid of change, afraid of healthy food, they enjoy being an ass, etc.
Ha! I brought vegan brownies to a regular potluck and didnt want to label them vegan so i wrote
"cholesterol free" and everyone was making fun of that and saying they wanted ones with extra cholesterol. I stood there sheepishly but they didn't know it was I who made them.
I did the same thing with a spinach art dip-just wrote dairy free instead of vegan. People seemed confused...but I thought perhaps there might be someone there avoiding dairy.
I called a restaurant today asking what meat and dairy free items they had (instead of using the intimidating vegan term) and was told just the salad. Although they posted on FB that they are now vegan and veg friendly. whatever! we are going elsewhere tonight!
"beware, who knows what's in that shit"
LOL
all true amy.
I thought this was well written"Afraid to Change
Are you afraid to change?
We all are.
It’s a side effect of the way our mind makes sense of the world.
Let me explain.
Let’s say that your brain didn’t use your experience to help you understand the world.
Your perception of every object, in every moment, would be brand new, and you would spend all your time and attention trying to make sense of the simplest experiences.
That’s not how your mind works.
Instead, your mind finds patterns in your experience, and tries to fit every new situation into an existing pattern, so you know how to act with minimum conscious thought.
This leaves your conscious mind free to focus on the truly new situations that you experience.
How wonderful it would be if we could calmly, clearly, and consciously analyze our new experiences.
Unfortunately, our mind forces new things into old patterns, even when they don’t fit.
And when we encounter something that doesn’t fit at all into our established patterns, our first instinct is to protect ourselves, while we see if the situation is dangerous.
It’s the same when we think about changing how we live, or who we are.
You really want those changes.
And you find it pretty easy to imagine how wonderful such a life would be.
Still, part of you doesn’t recognize that new “you”. The imagined you doesn’t fit into your existing patterns of safe experience, and is treated with caution, until that new you can be experienced and proven safe.
But will you ever get to experience that new you?
If a new you might be dangerous, the safest alternative is to completely avoid becoming that new you.
And for many of us that danger and fear stops us from making real progress toward our dreams."
"Vegan" is an exclusionary movement. A new set if rules, definitions and values are established.
That dosent mesh will with personalty types that are not open to the rigors of social change.
I always used to tell my dad that things were vegan so he wouldn't eat them.
I used to do this with the 4 year old I baby-sat! He'd always have pepperoni pizza or hot dogs, and I'd bring something vegan and he'd try and eat it. Or we'd say it was tofu, and he didn't want it anymore. (Yes, I could've brought more for him, but I wasn't going to change this kid's eating habits by baby-sitting once a week).
i really get annoyed when vegans even say things like 'it didnt taste vegan!'
it's like - wtf? stop reinforcing the idea that vegan=bad!
theres a difference between saying 'it was so good, you wouldnt know it was vegan!" and "it was so good, it didnt taste 'vegan!'"
choose your words wisely vegans cus ppl grab onto that shit!
i really get annoyed when vegans even say things like 'it didnt taste vegan!'
it's like - wtf? stop reinforcing the idea that vegan=bad!
theres a difference between saying 'it was so good, you wouldnt know it was vegan!" and "it was so good, it didnt taste 'vegan!'"
choose your words wisely vegans cus ppl grab onto that shit!
good point. Just like when people who label themselves vegan eat: meat, dairy, and eggs--if we can't get it right, then the omnis sure as hell aren't going to figure it out.
that's a good point propinecone... i don't think i do that but i will choose my words carefully... i don't get why vegan = tastes bad... i'm constantly showing people vegan food is good so shut the fuck up already and eat some
I bring in baked goods occasionally for my classmates, usually chocolate chip cookies. There's always someone who goes, "wait, are these vegan?" (putting two and two together), and then remarks, amazed "wow, i can't taste it!" or something like that. Taste what? a lack of eggs?
And then (non-baking) people assume that most pastries or even breads are made with butter + eggs + cream normally, but only weirdo vegans use oil or margarine ("man, i totally don't miss the butter in these bagels!"). Pick up a box mix and see... it's pretty much all oil and hydrogenated stuff. One time this type of comment was made in front of a culinarily-inclined friend of mine, who said before I could say anything, "actually, for most pastries it's just the eggs. Most modern pastries aren't made with butter anymore because of its tendency to become rancid, difficulty in handling, and because oil lends a more even texture. Milk or cream also makes cake drier because the proteins in the milk denature during baking." For serious. My hero.
It's actually kind of cute that people think their standard pastries (i.e. store bought stuff) is wholesome enough to be made with those things rather than dough conditioners and processed stuff.
Anyway, usually when I bring in stuff I don't say "I made you guys VEGAN cookies," partly because I know it'll mean fewer takers and also because someone will loudly figure it out eventually, and then the whole I-can't-tell-there's-no-butter-in-these-_______ conversation will occur. It should be kinda obvious anyway... a vegan wouldn't go out of their way to (learn to!) make something that they can't even eat. I mean, no one would expect a vegetarian to bring steak to a potluck.
fb, you hit on something that makes me laugh all the time. People around here don't know what vegan means, and when they eat my cooking they say "what's in this cookie?" and I say "it's more like what's NOT in this cookie." They think "vegan" food is something special and out there, instead of just being normal food minus the eggs/butter/milk. When I explain that to them, they seem to think it's much more "normal." And half the people I make baked goods for don't know how to cook anyway, so they wouldn't even know that my cookies are "missing an egg."
Sorry for all the parenthesis, but most of these statements are so ridiculous they can't stand on their own!
Yeah, especially cookies. Usually people tell me that they can't even tell that the egg is missing. Because... cookies taste like eggs? I mean, if you think about it, we're leaving out a less-tasty part and leaving in all the fat/sugar/chocolate that makes it tasty.
It's usually the people who haven't so much as baked from a box. Bakers/baking enthusiasts generally seem to get it.
Wow, I don't know why I said parenthesis when I clearly meant quotes. I claim...stupidity. I have no excuses!
Wow, I don't know why I said parenthesis when I clearly meant quotes. I claim...stupidity. I have no excuses!
LOL i didn't even notice
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