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Your grandmother asks you to bring a "salad" to a family function.

I'm at a loss as to which direction I want to go:  bagged greens and cukes so she can serve HV Ranch  dressing  ::) or get all "veggie weird" (maybe not so much tofu chunks), but no iceberg either.

It sounds a bit odd, but do any of you have a "show stopper" salad?  I hesitate to get too creative without a plan....these are the grandparents who didn't think my nutritional yeast gravy was nearly as fabulous as I did.

I'm making the brownies {http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=6640.0} from this site, but I have no intention of letting on that they are vegan.

Anyway, all ideas are welcome.

I think you need to have a serious talk with your grandmother in how she treats you when you come to her home.

If I were you I would say I don't need to come to your house to be treated this way. You got to be kidding me.

Some of my relatives have gone out of their way to make me a veggie dish when I came to their home.

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This whole incident reminds me of the last time I saw my biological family; we all went out to dinner (to a steak house, natch) and I was so belittled and berated before our orders had even come that I had to run to the ladies' room to keep from bursting into tears and attacking my sister with a steak knife. I was ready to pack my bags and return to Europe the next morning. I managed to tough it out though, for another 10 days. One of my brothers tried to excuse my sister (she was the ringleader, and a real bully) because "she's 8 mos pregnant". I told him that if her evil mood and sarcasm were pregnancy-based, she's been pregnant ever since I was born!
And people wonder why I don't "reach out" to those folks....

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Is this the same group of folks that came to your house for Christmas? Didn't they bring lots of meat stuff after saying they wouldn't? 

I don't get what grandma meant when she said you were trying to instigate or whatever. What does that mean? 

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This whole incident reminds me of the last time I saw my biological family; we all went out to dinner (to a steak house, natch) and I was so belittled and berated before our orders had even come that I had to run to the ladies' room to keep from bursting into tears and attacking my sister with a steak knife. I was ready to pack my bags and return to Europe the next morning. I managed to tough it out though, for another 10 days. One of my brothers tried to excuse my sister (she was the ringleader, and a real bully) because "she's 8 mos pregnant". I told him that if her evil mood and sarcasm were pregnancy-based, she's been pregnant ever since I was born!
And people wonder why I don't "reach out" to those folks....

Say you don't like what I eat? Don't really care.

If they keep it up make fun of what they eat. Tell them go eat your dead body parts and also wonder why a doctor has never ever said this- you have to cut down on your vegetables (as a dietary restriction)although they have mentioned to people to cut down on their red meat intake.

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Wow, that sounds tasty. It seems like it would work with agave or stevia cause it's not like the bulk of the sugar is needed-just the sweetness. Mmm strawberries...

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True story: while my brownies got dissed, they were seriously discussing getting my cousin's stomach stapled for her 14th BIRTHDAY!!  She's "too embarrassed to go outside and exercise."  To quote my aunt. 

Like I said earlier, I'm not sure where to file this in my brain yet.  ???

Ahh! That is one of the most frustrating things I've ever heard!

>:(
I am absolutely horrified! I had a dear friend die from this proceedure - she lived 4 years after having it done, and lost a fair amount of weight, but then developed gangrene around the site of the bypass which killed her - she left two children. I have known of several other people who died from this procedure, and many others who have become badly malnourished and unhealthy. I really wish it was outlawed (with possible exceptions being made for sitiuations like Yabbitgirl mentioned).

I feel bad about your Grandma's comment - it's too bad - wish you had a happier time there.  :-\

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Will and I were talking last night that surely it will be too difficult to find a doctor to perform this procedure on a 14y/o anyway.  I hope.  I don't doubt that she'll have it done by her 18th b-day, though...
My mom is an ER nurse and has seen some ugly ugly stuff regarding this surgery (to which my aunt and uncle said to her "well you only see the stuff that goes wrong, not the successes."  and mom replied "But what I've seen as the failures is enough to convince me this is not something you do to your child.")  Anyway, Mom was really animated about it on the ride home.

I appreciate to support from everyone; it's nice to know that even though I seem to be the weird one in my family, so are all of you!  :D

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Bless your mom for speaking up on your niece's behalf! Maybe even if they argued at first, they'll think later.

I do hope you're right about being able to find a doctor for it.

I feel really bad for your niece, because it's very hard to be an obese kid in our culture. I hope one day veg*nism will help her like it helped me!

In my family, everyone is "weird," so I'm afraid I blend pretty well!  :D

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The thing about your niece is that her parents want to just make the weight go away.  They could convert over to healthier foods and plan active family events that aren't straight exercise, but have movement.  If they don't want to try that first, their daughter could be picking up on her lack of importance to them in terms of life priorities.  Food could be her emotional reaction.  If that's the case, then after the surgery she's still going to have those emotional issues that will express themselves in some other way.  It's great that your mom spoke up on behalf of your niece regarding the surgery.

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Food could be her emotional reaction.  If that's the case, then after the surgery she's still going to have those emotional issues that will express themselves in some other way.  It's great that your mom spoke up on behalf of your niece regarding the surgery.

Yes - we were channel surfing the other day and heard a woman say that her gastric bypass made her loose weight, but since she could no longer overeat, she began burying her emotions in alchohol and became an alcoholic - not a very good trade-off.  :-\

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This whole incident reminds me of the last time I saw my biological family; we all went out to dinner (to a steak house, natch) and I was so belittled and berated before our orders had even come that I had to run to the ladies' room to keep from bursting into tears and attacking my sister with a steak knife. I was ready to pack my bags and return to Europe the next morning. I managed to tough it out though, for another 10 days. One of my brothers tried to excuse my sister (she was the ringleader, and a real bully) because "she's 8 mos pregnant". I told him that if her evil mood and sarcasm were pregnancy-based, she's been pregnant ever since I was born!
And people wonder why I don't "reach out" to those folks....

I know it wasn't fun at the time, but Yabbit, that was too funny! Two good yucks in one post!!  ;D  ;D

Every year my sister invites us for Christmas Eve & every year her husband makes some disparaging remark about how hard it is to find/make veggie food. This year we have other plans.

8)

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Thing is, the original attack was a "joke" about my food choices but then it just got ugly. It was like one of those documentaries where the seagulls are hungry and one gets hurt and bleeds and suddenly they all attack it. If anyone remembers the show "Titus"--well those people make Titus' family look normal. When I think back at what passes for "humour" among them--well not suprising I wasn't overendowed with friends at school. I guess what hurt most was the fact that I had been away for several years, and not only wasn't used to being treated that way, I *had* thought they might be glad to see me, and treat me well...not like company, but well! (I have since learned that a person who leaves any closed, dysfunctional family system is viewed as a traitor.) Fortunately since then I have learned that my choices have value because they are just that--mine. It's taken me 40 plus yrs but I've got it!

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I remember that show- I thought I was the only person who did!  I'm sorry that you had to go through all that.  I find you an inspiration for moving past it.

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Every year my sister invites us for Christmas Eve & every year her husband makes some disparaging remark about how hard it is to find/make veggie food. This year we have other plans.

That is so rude. I thought you were a guest in their home.

Say you'll bring your own food. Problem solved.

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Why is it that all veggie dishes here in the South have to have bacon or diced ham, etc. added to them?

This reminded me of the experience I just had (not in the South, unless you count South Dakota).  I was at a conference and the only restaurant within walking distance of the hotel was Applebee's.  I thought surely they'd have something I could eat.  I perused the menu and found nothing!  So I asked the server if they had a plain salad and she said yes, they had a house salad.  I asked if it had cheese on it or anything; she said it had cheese, eggs and bacon! I couldn't help myself; I actually laughed out loud at the absurdity.  She was very nice, though, and was quick to say that she'd be making it herself and would leave off the cheese, eggs, bacon and croutons for me.  WTF is wrong with Applebee's that they can't even have a salad on their menu without every known animal product on it?

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(Shakes head in understanding disbelief)...It's not Applebee's, it's the Midwest. I grew up there. Meat is the source of life. Eggs are not meat. Milk is not an animal product. They are Foods with a capital F! Vegetables are a garnish and fruit is a snack, and you mustn't get too much fruit, it's bad for you. You might actually have to "go" more than once a day! :-\
The worst "salad" I ever had involved lettuce, mayo, nuts and gelatine with fruit in it!
And why, oh why, would someone put MARSHMALLOWS in cole slaw!! Excuse me, but it's quite disgusting!!

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