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Anyone else run long distance?

  I am training for a marathon and I am currently running about 15 miles (3-4 times a week) at a little under 8 minutes per mile. I know it's a little slow but this is my first time and I have worked very hard in the past several months to get where I am. Before those months I could only run 3 miles at a little less than 6:40 a mile pace. Before I started I was on a vegan high protein diet (allot of tofu and soymilk). I was benching about 375 lbs. (about 3-5 times) at my peak. I was stronger than I am now (I can still bench 315 or so a few times), but I had literally no endurance in my muscles or endurance for running--I had no definition either. I'd say then at the most I could run 5 miles at a semi-fast pace (7:35 or so).

  So, I stopped lifting heavy weights and I started doing high repetitions (with as little as weight as possible). In addition to that I started running as far as I could at a pace I could keep up to not killing myself. I noticed a little change, I certainly could run further, have more endurance, etc... However, I was not noticing my energy going up at all. In fact, it was not until a few months ago when I decided to adopt a primarily raw (80% or more) diet that I have noticed significant gains in my well being and energy level. My endurance has gone up as well and I feel that I sweat less, have more concentration, and my mind is clearer. I even noticed my body becoming better toned and my skin looks better, but that's another issue. I started the running usually before I ate and after I lost most of my fat I decided to eat first before running, which in turn helped me run further because of the food(I felt less tired with it).

  Another thing that I noticed since adopting a raw food diet as that I can eat allot more (as well as having a better appetite) while still getting a good amount of calories to support my exercise habits. My morning meal is about twice as big as before going raw and consists of: 1 cup of soy yogurt, although I am trying to eliminate as much soy as possible (I add wheat germ, whole flax seed and some spirulina), 1 cup or more of Ezekiel golden flax cereal with raw almond or hazelnut milk (I make it, also I add some agave nectar (for taste), some cocoa powder, fresh blueberries (or black) and my organic active greens powder), then I usually eat two to 3 fruits including a whole cantaloupe (very important, high fiber, energy source) with usually a whole orange and another fruit. I then juice some carrots, beets and sometimes wheatgrass which I love. This is my usual morning meal (however the rest of the day is much lighter, esp. dinner). There is an exception, on days I don't run I replace the yogurt with a protein supplement (non-soy) and mix the same stuff or a little different in it, with extra almond milk.

  This is my training schedule: I run 3-4 times a week and the other days I take a fast (7min mile or less) 5 mile run with my dog (I hope someday she can run 30 miles with me--it's funny she loves running around all day even if she is by herself). Always, I run these miles before her and my breakfast. Before running, any day of the week, I always stretch out and do some breathing exercises as well as after. I also hang on an inversion table before and after all exercise I do. In addition to the short run, when I have time in the day I train with weights (high repetition for endurance) for about an hour and then I either do a cycling or yoga class.

  Before starting to run I was about 205 lbs (slightly overweight at 5'10"). Now I am about 180 lbs (I could probably lose another 3-5 lbs, but my body fat is very low). Nonetheless I am still very muscular (I probably lost a little strength and muscle from stopping heavy weights). The difference however, is astounding, I feel so much lighter, I feel better inside, I look better outside and the most important is that I am on my way to running the 26.2 mile marathon. I still have quite a way to go (I want to run 20-24 miles at a good pace for a couple months before I even attempt a marathon.) I even feel taller since losing weight, doing more yoga and hanging on the inversion table every day--and I am, I am close to 5'10 1/2"--but it was probably because of the nasty slouch I had.

  Right now I am at 15 miles, I intend to increase the distance like I have every two to three weeks by one mile. I see if my pace has improved or decreased since the last two to three weeks and I make a decision to increase it or wait longer to improve my pace. If I increase the distance I train very hard to keep the same pace I am at, or even a little better.

  I recommend anyone that wants to better themselves either physically, mentally or spiritually to give running long distance a try. Give it your best, put your heart, mind, body and soul into it and you will be thankful. The endorphins released after I run make me feel so good and give me a buzz throughout the rest of the day which increases my demeanor and I feel I do better in every way from school to social situations(I am getting mostly A's). I have conquered my so called supposed diagnoses (ADD, ADHD, Aspergers, Bipolar, Minor OCD) and have been off my medication for a year (which contributed allot to the weight gain and making me feel like crap), personally however, I thought they were all bullshit and I just had a tendency to think too much and have trouble concentrating (reading, writing and doing projects)--a way for them to make allot of money off me and put me on meds. I feel there is always a natural solution to break any barrier and obstacle possible in life.

  Also, I have a few questions... I just want to know if you guys think I am doing okay with the training regimen and the diet. Also, does anyone else here run long distance or want to? Has anyone else conquered there illness through natural means? Thank you.  :)

ummm WOW  :o I read your subject & thought maybe I could help you out a little, but considering you run much more than I currently do, and at a faster pace than I ever have, I don't think you need any advice from me! You also seem to eat very heathily. If you want to hang out with like minded people perhaps you should check out the forums at this website: http://veganbodybuilding.com/

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Yeah, that's what I was going to post after I read..most of it...

WOW...

Uhhhh...

Gogogo..

;)

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Wow, that is amazing.  I tried jogging, just can't seem to do it.  Unless I go very very slow I can't keep it up for more than a few seconds.  But walking and hiking, up and down hills, I can do that for hours and hours, but jogging, no way.

Good for you.

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Hi veglover!  I am a long distance runner as well.  I am training to do a full marathon at some point in the next year as well.  I do a half marathon at least once a week, and shorter runs several times throughout the week, so I'm getting there.  I also do spinning class three times a week and weight training pretty much every day, with a smattering of cardio equipment at the gym to mix things up.  I went vegan (from vegetarian) over the same period of time in which I made my most dramatic improvements in running, though it is really hard to say if there is a correlation (though I'm sure it's helped!)  Running has definitely made a positive impact in my life.  I'd place it second to veganism as the most important behavior that I've adapted into my life.

I'm really excited to hear about your raw food diet!  I eat a great deal of raw food--loads of fruit for breakfast, and big salads for lunch.  But I have never done quite the level of raw that you do.  I'm curious to see how much it would affect my performance.  I am getting better, slowly but surely, but for the most part I'm at a bit of a plateau, especially in terms of speed.  I think I will try to move even more in the direction of a primarily raw diet. 

Yeah, so I don't really have anything to add, but good luck with your running!  It sounds like your training regimen is working great. 

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I used to run long-distances and loved it.  Loved the feeling of a good 13 mile run.  Alas, age happened and after nearly 15 years of running my right knee went bad, and now I have plantar fascitis as well.  I miss it.  Guard your knees and feet is all I can say. 

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I read all your responses, glanced a little at your profiles and you seem like nice people. Thank you for your time reading my running story and your input is appreciated. I will certainly try to better myself by trying harder each time I run and maybe I'll possibly go 100 percent raw (I don't know though, I crave Praeger's veggie burgers with cooked mushrooms and Ezekiel sprouted buns).

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I do about one or two long distance runs (13 or so miles) a week, and run 6-7miles most other days  - on a vegan diet. It's gotten to the point where it's not exercise for me - it's a form of meditation that helps me stay present, both during the run and throughout the day. The earlier I manage to get it in, the better I feel. I've had many epiphanies on those runs!

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Aww, you all are inspiring me!  I'm going to go on a nice big run tomorrow morning and really appreciate it.

If only it weren't so frigid!  It's going to be in the forties here.  :'(

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  Yes, sometimes I get tired and my muscles get sore the next day if I push myself too hard when I'm running. It only usually happens when I go as fast as I can during the last one, two or three miles. Sometimes I do it purposely on Friday so I can sleep the whole day next (not quite what I do). What I do to remedy it is I get about 12-14 hours of sleep that night as well as taking a good amount of protein and vegetable juice (usually a mix of apple, carrot, beet, wheatgrass, blueberries and spirulina), as well as taking a multivitamin, flax seed oil, my amazing organic active greens powder and I let my magic sleepy time extra tea do it's work (that Valerian knocks me out).

  The next day, when I wake up, I follow up with a good morning meditation and stretch. Of course I have to walk my dog. Then I am hungry! It is usually past 12:00 PM, so I eat a good brunch with allot of fruit, some protein, vegetable juice and assorted raw nuts (I have a big handful every morning). Then I hang on my inversion tables for a few hours (while meditating or sleeping). Eventually, I wake up and I feel like I've been in hibernation for a year. I do some yoga and stretches to loosen my muscles even more to help in the repair process. I walk my dog or even talk a light 1 mile jog with her to stretch out and then I cuddle up with her watching television or a movie for 2 or 3 hours. I then give her another short walk. Before I go to sleep I drink a protein shake and vegetable juice, as well as taking flax seed oil and pure liquid Valerian (much stronger than the stuff in the tea). I usually sleep a good 10 hours on most days, but I sleep 12 or more if I need to recover.

  If I feel like I have recovered, (I usually do) I run the 15 miles, but at a slower pace so I don't wear out my just healed muscles. If I do not feel like I have recovered enough or if I just don't feel up to running then I have a normal day and workout with weights for endurance training and do a yoga or cycling class.

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:wow:

That's a lot of doing stuff..

and a lot of sleeping...

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