Posted by Anonymous on Sep 27, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
If you had a chance to redesign all the food labels out there to make it more vegan readable how would you do it?
Posted by faunablues on Sep 27, 2007 · Member since Aug 2003 · 9655 posts
I would make all the food vegan (with my magic wand). Problem solved.
No, I think instead that food should have the allergy warnings like Pillsbury and Betty Crocker do at the end, except animal flesh included. (what would that say? WARNING: CONTAINS DAIRY, EGGS, AND DECOMPOSING ANIMAL REMAINS ;D). Because SOMETIMES, there's weird things like beef fat in cake mixes, or chicken broth in otherwise vegan soups.
It would be cool if there was just a vegan label/sticker/symbol, but I wouldn't want any of those whey-adding industries deciding what's vegan.
If they listed the "allergens" of dairy, eggs, and meat (even if the ingredient is a derivative, like stearoyl lactylate or whatnot, 'cause it could have impurities, right?), all you'd have to search for is honey. Meanwhile, I'll be on a quest to find someone who's allergic, so we can include that too!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sep 27, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
i would be more interested in companies to stop making crap that takes 10 years to read the label on. really, if i can't pronounce it why do they think people will want to eat it? they are lucky that i think only a SMALL percent of the population actually READS those labels... because i sure as heck wouldn't want to eat some of the stuff they put in there, regardless of if it is vegan or not. i do like it when they bold things like whey. makes things easier.
Posted by hiimkelsi on Sep 27, 2007 · Member since Sep 2004 · 2297 posts
i would be more interested in companies to stop making crap that takes 10 years to read the label on. really, if i can't pronounce it why do they think people will want to eat it? they are lucky that i think only a SMALL percent of the population actually READS those labels... because i sure as heck wouldn't want to eat some of the stuff they put in there, regardless of if it is vegan or not. i do like it when they bold things like whey. makes things easier.
i do like companies that label things as vegitarian or vegan but there are issues with that (what definitions to use, ect). for example, i got excited when i found some new chapstick at the co-op labeled "animal product free" and the first thing was beeswax. right, cause those aren't animals. i didn't understand b/c what other "animal stuff" would a natural products company put in? honey, maybe but how is that different from beeswax. boggles the mind.
Posted by jenniferhughes on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Aug 2006 · 1828 posts
I like how in Europe the equal to "serving size" is always 100grams (unless the packet is smaller than 100g) so it labels how much fat fiber protein is in 100grams It's easy estimate how big 100 grams is in your head (if you grew up that way ;)) If the package is 500g I know I can divde it by 5 and get the aprox serving size. Yes you have to do math if the serving BUT in the US the box is in grams or ozs and the serving size is like "1/2 cup" or "2cups" or "7oz" or "2T"? Huh? and No one eats 1/2 cup they eat 2 cups or something like that.
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
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Posted by laurabs on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Jul 2006 · 2610 posts
I'd like things to be in portion sizes, not weight. how am I supposed to know what 100 g is? I can measure out a cup, but grams, ounces? I don't have a handy kitchen scale...
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Posted by tanevab on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Jan 2007 · 942 posts
No you are right BP. If you get recipes from Europe, particularly for baking, it is usually in weights.
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Posted by JessaCita on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Nov 2006 · 1808 posts
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
I agree!!!
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Posted by hespedal on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Mar 2006 · 5259 posts
I like how in Europe the equal to "serving size" is always 100grams (unless the packet is smaller than 100g) so it labels how much fat fiber protein is in 100grams It's easy estimate how big 100 grams is in your head (if you grew up that way ;)) If the package is 500g I know I can divde it by 5 and get the aprox serving size. Yes you have to do math if the serving BUT in the US the box is in grams or ozs and the serving size is like "1/2 cup" or "2cups" or "7oz" or "2T"? Huh? and No one eats 1/2 cup they eat 2 cups or something like that.
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
it is the exact same concept in the states. it will say 1/2 c serving size, servings per container: 8. so just divide the whole thing by 8. no prob.
i don't like RDA either, but for different reasons. mainly because it is old. also, because different groups need different amounts of each micro nutrient (and it is all generalized). i don't think it is bad that the usda has standard RDA/AIs for nutrients.... if i couldn't look at that as a reference, i sure wouldn't have figured out how much i needed on my own, i can tell you that much.
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Posted by faunablues on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Aug 2003 · 9655 posts
I had this one bio professor who told me that RDA is not necessarily the "healthy" amount to get, but the minimum amount required to not show signs of deficiency (can be very different things!). That's how the experiments go to determine these things :o
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Posted by hespedal on Sep 28, 2007 · Member since Mar 2006 · 5259 posts
I had this one bio professor who told me that RDA is not necessarily the "healthy" amount to get, but the minimum amount required to not show signs of deficiency (can be very different things!). That's how the experiments go to determine these things :o
noooooooo! the rda is basically a 'safety' blanket amount that encompasses 95% of the population. meaning, most people are getting too MUCH (well, more than they need) if they are eating their micronutrients at the rda level.
I would make all the food vegan (with my magic wand). Problem solved.
No, I think instead that food should have the allergy warnings like Pillsbury and Betty Crocker do at the end, except animal flesh included. (what would that say? WARNING: CONTAINS DAIRY, EGGS, AND DECOMPOSING ANIMAL REMAINS ;D). Because SOMETIMES, there's weird things like beef fat in cake mixes, or chicken broth in otherwise vegan soups.
It would be cool if there was just a vegan label/sticker/symbol, but I wouldn't want any of those whey-adding industries deciding what's vegan.
If they listed the "allergens" of dairy, eggs, and meat (even if the ingredient is a derivative, like stearoyl lactylate or whatnot, 'cause it could have impurities, right?), all you'd have to search for is honey. Meanwhile, I'll be on a quest to find someone who's allergic, so we can include that too!
i would be more interested in companies to stop making crap that takes 10 years to read the label on. really, if i can't pronounce it why do they think people will want to eat it? they are lucky that i think only a SMALL percent of the population actually READS those labels... because i sure as heck wouldn't want to eat some of the stuff they put in there, regardless of if it is vegan or not. i do like it when they bold things like whey. makes things easier.
here here! ;)
i would be more interested in companies to stop making crap that takes 10 years to read the label on. really, if i can't pronounce it why do they think people will want to eat it? they are lucky that i think only a SMALL percent of the population actually READS those labels... because i sure as heck wouldn't want to eat some of the stuff they put in there, regardless of if it is vegan or not. i do like it when they bold things like whey. makes things easier.
i do like companies that label things as vegitarian or vegan but there are issues with that (what definitions to use, ect). for example, i got excited when i found some new chapstick at the co-op labeled "animal product free" and the first thing was beeswax. right, cause those aren't animals. i didn't understand b/c what other "animal stuff" would a natural products company put in? honey, maybe but how is that different from beeswax. boggles the mind.
i vote for instead of saying animal product free, it says 'meets vegan society standards' http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/criteria.php i thought that looked like a pretty complete list
I like how in Europe the equal to "serving size" is always 100grams (unless the packet is smaller than 100g) so it labels how much fat fiber protein is in 100grams
It's easy estimate how big 100 grams is in your head (if you grew up that way ;))
If the package is 500g I know I can divde it by 5 and get the aprox serving size. Yes you have to do math if the serving
BUT in the US the box is in grams or ozs and the serving size is like "1/2 cup" or "2cups" or "7oz" or "2T"? Huh? and No one eats 1/2 cup they eat 2 cups or something like that.
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
I'd like things to be in portion sizes, not weight. how am I supposed to know what 100 g is? I can measure out a cup, but grams, ounces? I don't have a handy kitchen scale...
No you are right BP. If you get recipes from Europe, particularly for baking, it is usually in weights.
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
I agree!!!
I like how in Europe the equal to "serving size" is always 100grams (unless the packet is smaller than 100g) so it labels how much fat fiber protein is in 100grams
It's easy estimate how big 100 grams is in your head (if you grew up that way ;))
If the package is 500g I know I can divde it by 5 and get the aprox serving size. Yes you have to do math if the serving
BUT in the US the box is in grams or ozs and the serving size is like "1/2 cup" or "2cups" or "7oz" or "2T"? Huh? and No one eats 1/2 cup they eat 2 cups or something like that.
OH also RDA I hate RDA I don't want to know how much % of a particluar nutrient the goverment thinks I should eat... I want to know actualy numbers! g mg etc so that I can decide for myself!
it is the exact same concept in the states. it will say 1/2 c serving size, servings per container: 8. so just divide the whole thing by 8. no prob.
i don't like RDA either, but for different reasons. mainly because it is old. also, because different groups need different amounts of each micro nutrient (and it is all generalized). i don't think it is bad that the usda has standard RDA/AIs for nutrients.... if i couldn't look at that as a reference, i sure wouldn't have figured out how much i needed on my own, i can tell you that much.
I had this one bio professor who told me that RDA is not necessarily the "healthy" amount to get, but the minimum amount required to not show signs of deficiency (can be very different things!). That's how the experiments go to determine these things :o
I had this one bio professor who told me that RDA is not necessarily the "healthy" amount to get, but the minimum amount required to not show signs of deficiency (can be very different things!). That's how the experiments go to determine these things :o
noooooooo! the rda is basically a 'safety' blanket amount that encompasses 95% of the population. meaning, most people are getting too MUCH (well, more than they need) if they are eating their micronutrients at the rda level.